Panel: AFR Government Services Summit

A very enjoyable day at the AFR Government Services Summit yesterday.

Minister Leighโ€™s keynote set the tone: ๐—”๐—œ-๐—ฑ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ป ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐˜๐˜† ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜€ ๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ฒ๐˜…๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป, ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ฎ๐—น๐˜‚๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป, ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ผ๐˜€๐—ถ๐˜๐˜†, ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜€๐˜†๐˜€๐˜๐—ฒ๐—บ๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ป ๐—ฏ๐˜† ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ณ๐—ฎ๐˜‚๐—น๐˜ ๐˜€๐—ผ ๐˜„๐—ฒ ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—ด๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ป ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ. This resonates deeply with me as a scientist viewing productivity growth and risk management through the lens of evaluation science.

Highlights included David Hazlehurst (CEO, Services Australia) showing how responsible AI is not about โ€œcan youโ€ but โ€œshould youโ€โ€”being clever, not creepyโ€”and reminding us that humans are biased too. The challenge is to use AI to remove bias without introducing new kinds.

On my panel on responsible AI and governance, I emphasisedโ€”harking back to Minister Leighโ€™s point:
1. The danger of premature risk labelling without proper evaluation tools
2. Why safeguards must be measured for effectiveness and cost, not just symbolic presence
3. How evaluating AI without perfect ground truth is both possible and necessaryโ€”the new frontier CSIRO’s Data61 are working on to unlock AIโ€™s value

Looking forward, explainable and agentic AI raises new challenges. Demanding traditional explainability is like asking for a neuron-level explanation of the human brain. Over-supervising agents with human oversight defeats the definition of โ€œagenticโ€. The task is to relinquish agency and control judiciously while maintaining trust.

๐—ช๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜†๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด๐—ณ๐˜‚๐—น ๐—ต๐˜‚๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ต๐˜, ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ต ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ฎ ๐—ณ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฎ๐—น ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜† ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜€ ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—ณ๐˜‚๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ท๐—ผ๐—ฏ๐˜€ ๐˜„๐—ถ๐—น๐—น ๐—น๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—ธ ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ธ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜€ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐˜๐˜† ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ฒ.

Finally, I reflected on whatโ€™s comingโ€”especially the question Iโ€™m sometimes asked: ๐—ช๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜โ€™๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—ท๐—ผ๐—ฏ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ต๐˜‚๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ถ๐˜๐˜†?

It is ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ดโ€”of AI and of other humans. AI may surpass us in many tasks, but the joy of learning, improving, and injecting human ingenuity, values, and safeguards remains. Just as no human can beat AI at chess, yet the number of chess players, grandmasters, and their skill levels are at their peak today, human growth itself is the enduring pursuit.


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